laws. there is a linkage with the super pacs, because you're seeing people funding these but also the initiative to get these voter i.d. laws passed. my question is twofold. is this pretty blatant -- this is what republican leaders are saying, attempt up boater disenfranchisement and explicit strategy of the republicans that is emerging as something that we're going to see in future elections? just to challenge you, how do you justify it? >> i will take that. i do not know anyone has said that. >> they are saying they do not want certain people to vote. i do not understand how you can justify that. >> i do not know they are saying that. i will give my response here is what happens. i have seen firsthand the voter fraud. it is probably not as rampant as a lot of people would have you believe, just like the threats on republicans tried to disenfranchise people as what you are trying to see. what you have here is a tug between both sides, and both sides think the other side is doing some good